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	<title>Comentários sobre: Mandriva 2008 Spring, o Linux Definitivo?</title>
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	<description>Conversando sobre informática, com destaque aos sistemas operacionais beaseados em Linux, do ponto de vista do usuário</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Por: MaxRaven</title>
		<link>http://linuser.com/2008/08/mandriva-2008-spring-o-linux-definitivo/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>MaxRaven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pra ser sincero nem acho ele tão bonito assim, pelo contrario, acho que ainda vai melhorar muito. Você deve ter visto o tema do próximo Red Flag, então dá para sentir que muito pode ser melhorado.

O maior erro é comparar o KDE 4 com o Gnome ou KDE 3, ele está usável, mas não pronto, coisa que deve ocorrer no 4.2, depois disso só adição de recursos/correções. Eles queriam um núcleo pronto, conseguiram, agora é esperar ter os programas que usam este núcleo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pra ser sincero nem acho ele tão bonito assim, pelo contrario, acho que ainda vai melhorar muito. Você deve ter visto o tema do próximo Red Flag, então dá para sentir que muito pode ser melhorado.</p>
<p>O maior erro é comparar o KDE 4 com o Gnome ou KDE 3, ele está usável, mas não pronto, coisa que deve ocorrer no 4.2, depois disso só adição de recursos/correções. Eles queriam um núcleo pronto, conseguiram, agora é esperar ter os programas que usam este núcleo.</p>
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		<title>Por: eug</title>
		<link>http://linuser.com/2008/08/mandriva-2008-spring-o-linux-definitivo/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>eug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Por isso que ainda não me interessei  pelo kde novo.

De que adianta ser bonitinho mas ordinário!

(Seria tipo assim um KDE-Lucélia_Santos?!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Por isso que ainda não me interessei  pelo kde novo.</p>
<p>De que adianta ser bonitinho mas ordinário!</p>
<p>(Seria tipo assim um KDE-Lucélia_Santos?!)</p>
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		<title>Por: MaxRaven</title>
		<link>http://linuser.com/2008/08/mandriva-2008-spring-o-linux-definitivo/#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>MaxRaven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As coisas só vão ficar melhor nos RC's, mas pelo que vi ai, os problemas que ele encontrou ai são os mesmos de todas as distribuições com KDE 4.1, muitos deles encontrei aqui no Arch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As coisas só vão ficar melhor nos RC&#8217;s, mas pelo que vi ai, os problemas que ele encontrou ai são os mesmos de todas as distribuições com KDE 4.1, muitos deles encontrei aqui no Arch.</p>
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		<title>Por: eug</title>
		<link>http://linuser.com/2008/08/mandriva-2008-spring-o-linux-definitivo/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>eug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 01:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://blog.linuxbox.co.nz/2008_08_01_archive.html#5828925700280985105

Monday, August 11, 2008
Mandriva 2009 Beta 2 - KDE 4.1 thoughts and comments

I recently downloaded the Mandriva 2009.0 beta 2 KDE 4.1 live cd.

I kept of list of things I found as I had a look around it.  I only focused on the desktop.

    * Cacert.org certificate not installed on live CD :(
    * Konquror missing
    * Seems to have a beta Nvidia driver. Worked fine.
    * 3D performance was mixed, with it not feeling as smooth as compiz fusion with KDE 3.5 does.
    * Same old compiz oddities, like resizing a window when wobbly windows turned on is slow / does not redraw as it’s being resized.
    * Firefox and Firefox 3 both on live CD, except, on menu, one shows as “Mozilla firefox” and one as “Firefox web browser”. It would be better to have the version number to tell the difference
    * KDE4 compositing working. I selected compiz on startup, but it seems to be ignored.
    * Firefox theme ugly. This really looks bad with KDE4 looking so good. I suggest that Mandriva consider installing the “kde4″ firefox theme by default, this fits the look and feel of KDE better.
    * The La ora theme not on live CD, this is a pity, as the default KDE window theme, is ok, but not that nice. It can be made a lot nicer, by turning off the “Show stripes next to title”. although maybe this is just me complaining. Getting the title bar colours to be anything other than fairly boring seems to be a bit of a trick, but possible with some playing around.
    * System settings not on the menu, only available from “Favorites” on the menu.
    * No power management applet on in KDE
    * Excellent wifi support, Wifi LED started to work, plus without any configuration, wifi just worked when I accessed the network center.
    * Dolphin not my preferred tool.. So I’ll be sticking with Konqurer, however, I notice that dolphin can display icons like I prefer, what used to be called multicolumn in konqurer.
    * Run command interface is nice: Noteworthy shortcuts. Ctrl - F12 to show dashboard, and Ctrl - Esc to show system activity. Also of course, the alt-f2 which is greatly improved krunner.
    * sftp kio slave works well. Excellent
    * man kio slave displayes manuals, but tried to open in firefox.
    * fish kio slave crashed dolphin, but worked on second attempt..
    * “Up” icon missing in dolphin
    * Ogg not associated with amarok.
    * Both the “Programs” and “Applications” kioslave’s do not show applications at second level.
    * Desktop plasmoid “picture frame” does not support kio slaves. :(

Now, enough of the bullets, and a visual tour.

(...)</description>
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<p>Monday, August 11, 2008<br />
Mandriva 2009 Beta 2 - KDE 4.1 thoughts and comments</p>
<p>I recently downloaded the Mandriva 2009.0 beta 2 KDE 4.1 live cd.</p>
<p>I kept of list of things I found as I had a look around it.  I only focused on the desktop.</p>
<p>    * Cacert.org certificate not installed on live CD :(<br />
    * Konquror missing<br />
    * Seems to have a beta Nvidia driver. Worked fine.<br />
    * 3D performance was mixed, with it not feeling as smooth as compiz fusion with KDE 3.5 does.<br />
    * Same old compiz oddities, like resizing a window when wobbly windows turned on is slow / does not redraw as it’s being resized.<br />
    * Firefox and Firefox 3 both on live CD, except, on menu, one shows as “Mozilla firefox” and one as “Firefox web browser”. It would be better to have the version number to tell the difference<br />
    * KDE4 compositing working. I selected compiz on startup, but it seems to be ignored.<br />
    * Firefox theme ugly. This really looks bad with KDE4 looking so good. I suggest that Mandriva consider installing the “kde4″ firefox theme by default, this fits the look and feel of KDE better.<br />
    * The La ora theme not on live CD, this is a pity, as the default KDE window theme, is ok, but not that nice. It can be made a lot nicer, by turning off the “Show stripes next to title”. although maybe this is just me complaining. Getting the title bar colours to be anything other than fairly boring seems to be a bit of a trick, but possible with some playing around.<br />
    * System settings not on the menu, only available from “Favorites” on the menu.<br />
    * No power management applet on in KDE<br />
    * Excellent wifi support, Wifi LED started to work, plus without any configuration, wifi just worked when I accessed the network center.<br />
    * Dolphin not my preferred tool.. So I’ll be sticking with Konqurer, however, I notice that dolphin can display icons like I prefer, what used to be called multicolumn in konqurer.<br />
    * Run command interface is nice: Noteworthy shortcuts. Ctrl - F12 to show dashboard, and Ctrl - Esc to show system activity. Also of course, the alt-f2 which is greatly improved krunner.<br />
    * sftp kio slave works well. Excellent<br />
    * man kio slave displayes manuals, but tried to open in firefox.<br />
    * fish kio slave crashed dolphin, but worked on second attempt..<br />
    * “Up” icon missing in dolphin<br />
    * Ogg not associated with amarok.<br />
    * Both the “Programs” and “Applications” kioslave’s do not show applications at second level.<br />
    * Desktop plasmoid “picture frame” does not support kio slaves. :(</p>
<p>Now, enough of the bullets, and a visual tour.</p>
<p>(&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>Por: Diogo Silva</title>
		<link>http://linuser.com/2008/08/mandriva-2008-spring-o-linux-definitivo/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>Diogo Silva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Faço minhas as palavras do Roberto, é o que penso sem tirar nem por.

A sensação que tenho com o Mandriva é de "pronto".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faço minhas as palavras do Roberto, é o que penso sem tirar nem por.</p>
<p>A sensação que tenho com o Mandriva é de &#8220;pronto&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Por: eug</title>
		<link>http://linuser.com/2008/08/mandriva-2008-spring-o-linux-definitivo/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>eug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://izanbardprince.wordpress.com/2008/08/09/why-vista-is-not-ready-for-linux-and-mac-users/

Why Vista is not ready for Linux and Mac users


I’ve started my simulated migration from Linux to Vista already, starting my dog food challenge two days early, I will go over my findings so far, sometimes making the assumptions a new Windows user would, and mostly from the perspective of a Linux “switcher”, with a dose of sarcasm.

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<p>Why Vista is not ready for Linux and Mac users</p>
<p>I’ve started my simulated migration from Linux to Vista already, starting my dog food challenge two days early, I will go over my findings so far, sometimes making the assumptions a new Windows user would, and mostly from the perspective of a Linux “switcher”, with a dose of sarcasm.</p>
<p>(&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>Por: eug</title>
		<link>http://linuser.com/2008/08/mandriva-2008-spring-o-linux-definitivo/#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>eug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://scottnesbitt.net/ubuntublog/?p=214

It wasn’t supposed to be this easy 

(...)
It arrived before the end of that week, and my wife quickly set the printer up. I mentioned that I might try to connect my Linux laptop to it, but never got around to it. The other night, I gave it a try. And I was pleasantly surprised at how quickly I was able to do it.
Getting going

On the GNOME panel, I selected System &#62; Administrator &#62; Printers and then clicked Add Printer.

The new printer appeared at the top of the list, complete with its port and IP address. A few clicks later, I had the printer installed and did a test print of the page. After I sent the page off, the printer monitor informed me that printer was low on ink (which it was).

The entire process took about two minutes — a good chunk of that was deciding what to call the printer in my list. In case you’re wondering, I chose Clacker, because it makes a soft clacking noise while printing.
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<p>It wasn’t supposed to be this easy </p>
<p>(&#8230;)<br />
It arrived before the end of that week, and my wife quickly set the printer up. I mentioned that I might try to connect my Linux laptop to it, but never got around to it. The other night, I gave it a try. And I was pleasantly surprised at how quickly I was able to do it.<br />
Getting going</p>
<p>On the GNOME panel, I selected System &gt; Administrator &gt; Printers and then clicked Add Printer.</p>
<p>The new printer appeared at the top of the list, complete with its port and IP address. A few clicks later, I had the printer installed and did a test print of the page. After I sent the page off, the printer monitor informed me that printer was low on ink (which it was).</p>
<p>The entire process took about two minutes — a good chunk of that was deciding what to call the printer in my list. In case you’re wondering, I chose Clacker, because it makes a soft clacking noise while printing.<br />
(&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>Por: eug</title>
		<link>http://linuser.com/2008/08/mandriva-2008-spring-o-linux-definitivo/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>eug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"mais linda do planeta" é super relativo, né?

Gosto é uma coisa super pessoal.

O ms-suse/ms-opensuse tb é bem caprichado/bonito.

E tem gente que acha lindo o marrom-cocô do ubuntu!
:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;mais linda do planeta&#8221; é super relativo, né?</p>
<p>Gosto é uma coisa super pessoal.</p>
<p>O ms-suse/ms-opensuse tb é bem caprichado/bonito.</p>
<p>E tem gente que acha lindo o marrom-cocô do ubuntu!<br />
:-)</p>
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		<title>Por: Roberto</title>
		<link>http://linuser.com/2008/08/mandriva-2008-spring-o-linux-definitivo/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>Roberto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 05:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bem, não sou usuário da Distro Mandriva, porém
sempre a instalo para dar uma olhada e checar
sua performance e comodidades como usuário. 

É uma distro que rola mesmo sem nenhuma dúvida. Passa confiança para o usuário.

Estética, concepção visual, acabamento final, 
sim,O Mandriva (para mim) é a Distribuição
Linux mais linda do Planeta Linux.

Eu não sou um usuário dela porque já me acostumei no mundo dos .deb

Até...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bem, não sou usuário da Distro Mandriva, porém<br />
sempre a instalo para dar uma olhada e checar<br />
sua performance e comodidades como usuário. </p>
<p>É uma distro que rola mesmo sem nenhuma dúvida. Passa confiança para o usuário.</p>
<p>Estética, concepção visual, acabamento final,<br />
sim,O Mandriva (para mim) é a Distribuição<br />
Linux mais linda do Planeta Linux.</p>
<p>Eu não sou um usuário dela porque já me acostumei no mundo dos .deb</p>
<p>Até&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Por: MaxRaven</title>
		<link>http://linuser.com/2008/08/mandriva-2008-spring-o-linux-definitivo/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>MaxRaven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>o apimente.br, moderador lá no FGdH já fez isso, inclusive pretendo fazer uns tbm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>o apimente.br, moderador lá no FGdH já fez isso, inclusive pretendo fazer uns tbm</p>
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